In the case of "No Such Thing," as soon as I wrote that song I knew it was going to be my first single if I ever had the opportunity.
CM: How old is that song now? How long have you been doing it?
JM: I think that song is from the summer of '98. Yeah.
CM: That is a great little pop song.
JM: Thank you. Thank you. I like it exactly because it's a pop song but it doesn't use pop tricks.
CM: Yeah, and you've got the dense, introspective lyrics that hopefully take it to another level.
JM: Hopefully, I mean. I just like watching the thing kind of go.