I think I messaged [Taylor Swift] on Twitter. I think I said—I sent her a direct message saying, I have this song, I think you're the one for it. And I don't normally do that. It took me four records for me to get to a song where I said, Wow this can really mean something—or maybe it took someone like Taylor coming around to really make that an organic process instead of an arranged marriage of a duo.
And so I called out to her and she agreed to do it. Came into the studio. One of the best work ethics I've ever seen on somebody. Some people you get two or three tries of asking them to do it again before they disengage. She was a tank. I got to a point of comfort with her I went, Wow this girl is gonna stay. This girl's gonna stay til it's done! Which is the greatest and sadly the rarest thing when you're getting people racing the martini. You can just feel someone is racing to get out.
I just remember at some point being comfortable enough to say, Do it again. Instead of, That's good. That's good. Without having to coddle. She sort of just made it clear through her behavior like, Let's just get this thing, however long it takes, you got me. And that of course opened up the experience into being great. I'm learning in my career now when you let there be an experience, when you let something go in it's own way and flow, you get ten fold back instead of micromanaging everything.